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Post by aalnyar on Sept 12, 2014 14:08:35 GMT -6
what about Prc that require teachers example  Bladesinger, or other such Prc that requires someone with the knowledge to teach you how to become one |
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Post by star2316 on Sept 12, 2014 16:21:54 GMT -6
I kinda go against the teacher ideas. Those idea work when there is few prestige classes and a okay playbase but when we start to say PRC and low playerbase we really deal with alot of prestige classes and in return few people to be teachers. I am also little against the idea to make it need npc teachers since that mean a DM need to invest quite the time into it.
It would be better to do a more normal application route for the prestige classes that deem too strong or lore related. That my take, since it really make it easier for everyone with the sheer number of prestige classes and few people and that also likely mean few DMs.
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Post by artemishadow on Sept 12, 2014 16:47:23 GMT -6
I kinda go against the teacher ideas. Those idea work when there is few prestige classes and a okay playbase but when we start to say PRC and low playerbase we really deal with alot of prestige classes and in return few people to be teachers. I am also little against the idea to make it need npc teachers since that mean a DM need to invest quite the time into it. It would be better to do a more normal application route for the prestige classes that deem too strong or lore related. That my take, since it really make it easier for everyone with the sheer number of prestige classes and few people and that also likely mean few DMs. I agree with Star on this one on both accounts, there simply isn't a large enough playerbase and FAR too many prestige classes. On the flip side of that coin I can see it making sense for a prestige class that belongs to a certain group, for example, Suel Archanamach, they go through a very specialized training and are the only ones of their kind that offer the type of training, where as weapon masters for example just become really in tune with their weapon of choice. |
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Post by stillevande on Sept 12, 2014 18:30:22 GMT -6
what about Prc that require teachers example Bladesinger, or other such Prc that requires someone with the knowledge to teach you how to become one Is it a lore based or technical based limitation? |
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Post by shalvan on Sept 28, 2014 12:12:11 GMT -6
Ok, probably too late, but I am all for allowing the use of psionics. It's really flavorful while not being overly strong - Psion kineticist won't be a much stronger blaster than a sorcerer, psion shaper won't be a stronger summoner than some sort of a necromancer.
And well... To be fair I am bored of playing warblades, wizards and warlocks, the rest of standard classes don't appeal to me that much... Psionics is refreshing. It's something different to use. Adds variety.
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Post by stillevande on Sept 29, 2014 9:26:00 GMT -6
Ok, probably too late, but I am all for allowing the use of psionics. It's really flavorful while not being overly strong - Psion kineticist won't be a much stronger blaster than a sorcerer, psion shaper won't be a stronger summoner than some sort of a necromancer. And well... To be fair I am bored of playing warblades, wizards and warlocks, the rest of standard classes don't appeal to me that much... Psionics is refreshing. It's something different to use. Adds variety. And no material components for any psionic class, so we will be inundated with psions (because players naturally will want to use magic/psion classes without such restrictions), which isnt fair for the ones that do. Sorry. |
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Post by shalvan on Sept 30, 2014 7:57:19 GMT -6
What about Warlock and Dragonfire Adept? They also cast things similar to spells in unlimited fashion without any material components. One could argue that Book of Nine Swords material is also a kind of magic, but doesn't use any material components. And there's the Runescarred Berserker, who gets to cast spells through runescars which also don't use any material components (though to be fair it does cost some gold to scribe it).
Hm, honestly I didn't really remember I had to use material components before you reminded me. It's one of the more... Chore-like and unfun aspects I think. I understand the balance reasons, but it could've been done simpler if it was possible to just subtract an amount of money when you cast a spell (or put some money in the spell component pouch to better keep track of these expenses - if its possible).
Oh, and there's still Truenamer.
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Post by neosporin on Sept 30, 2014 9:54:02 GMT -6
Okay, as of this point, the thread is locked. Here's why: - This is starting to become a back and forth about psionics, which is not the intended purpose of this topic. It was to give your opinion as to what should be banned and why.
- At the moment, the new class/race list has been drawn up, so this specific topic has become moot.
For the record, I'm not trying to shut the discussion down. I encourage anyone who disagrees with the new class/race list to start a new topic where points can be made and the validity of those points can be discussed. We started this topic to hear from the playerbase on how they feel about classes, but I feel the topic itself has now run it's course. As I stated earlier, I'm more than happy and welcoming for anyone wanting to discuss the off-topics here (NPC teachers, psionics, ECL levels, Hide in Plain Sight, etc.) to make a new topic which can focus on it. I apologize for the forums, they still need a good cleaning, but by starting a new topic, it will be a good step towards cleaning up the forums. If anyone has any questions or feel the locking of this thread was unjustified, I encourage you to reach out to me. My inbox is always open  -neo |
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Bladesinger, or other such Prc that requires someone with the knowledge to teach you how to become one
